Curse

Tha Axod · May 24, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40

Its should be made able to get the survivor title even if you died.
you would just have to start all over again.
This way it would be able to get all the titles on one character.
But then i would need to tihnk of a way to get the LDOA title for non-tyrian characters.

ClanYumemiru · May 24, 2007, 01:44 PM // 13:44

Hm.

Given that the purpose of the Survivor title is to show you managed to get to level 20 WITHOUT dying (for the first level at least) it's a bit pointless to award it to those who have died before, neh ?

Tha Axod · May 24, 2007, 01:51 PM // 13:51

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Originally Posted by ClanYumemiru

Hm.

Given that the purpose of the Survivor title is to show you managed to get to level 20 WITHOUT dying (for the first level at least) it's a bit pointless to award it to those who have died before, neh ?

then i'd say it should be possible to reroll your character temporaly.
so you could get both the survivor and the ldoa title.

Patrick Smit · May 24, 2007, 02:05 PM // 14:05

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Originally Posted by ClanYumemiru

Hm.

Given that the purpose of the Survivor title is to show you managed to get to level 20 WITHOUT dying (for the first level at least) it's a bit pointless to award it to those who have died before, neh ?

Nah some characters have been created before the title was even introduced, so my monk, on which I gather all titles is unable to get this one. Im on the brink of making a warrior survivor and will delete therefor my other warrior, but i would have to game all three games again, a bit daunting, but maybe a nice change again. i still would prefer the title on my monk, and it would be much harder to get as u dont have all those quests and missions anymore and a lot of skills already capped.

What to expect from such a title and the HoM in Gwen? can only the titles of one character be conferred or beneficial? Or u can have the benefit of more? Is there gonna be any benefit at all? Maybe the name change of my warrior is rewarding enough to just take the challenge.

Div · May 24, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07

Yep, sucks for the characters made before the title was introduced. It's a matter of whether or not you want to restart the character for that one title or just keep all your current achievements.

Tha Axod · May 24, 2007, 02:22 PM // 14:22

so is my elementalist, im at 12 maxed titles now.
i capped all elite, so then wont give me any more xp.
but if i want a new character, i would have to do all quest mission skills and exploration agin, that would take me another year.

guppychk · May 24, 2007, 02:43 PM // 14:43

I think that there might also be a Special Weekend on witch you can start the title again.
if you earn 140K Xp you have rank 1 on the title...
i dont think that it will be possible to make 1.337.560 XP on the weekend so the XP in the week after should also count. if you die trough this week you are unlucky, but during the weekend you shuold be able to start the title over and over again...

the deaths shouldn't be deleted (i'm also proud of them ^^)

Skye Marin · May 24, 2007, 02:58 PM // 14:58

Tying it to a weekend or an NPC wouldn't be a great idea, as those not around for that weekend would be missing out on a whole title.

I think the title should be achivable even after a death. Once you die, an internal XP counter resets, but you current "high score" is still recorded on the titles panel until you pass that mark.

The only downside is that current title holders would claim that it devalues their earned titles, but I think they'll live.

MagmaRed · May 24, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20

If you die, you are not a Survivor. No title should be awarded. This idea is absolutely stupid. Sounds like a 5 year old crying, not someone old enough to play this game. If you want that title, don't die. If you die, delete the character and try again. Yes, this means anyone who started a character before the title was available is screwed, but they have the option to delete and restart the character if that title is that important to them. There is no title (yet at least) for getting all titles maxed, and it is impossible to do so anyway. Getting Survivor and Defender in pre-searing is impossible unless a change was made I am not aware of.

I vote no, and shudder that someone actually wants this.

silvia_littlegirl · May 24, 2007, 03:32 PM // 15:32

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Originally Posted by Tha Axod

so is my elementalist, im at 12 maxed titles now.
i capped all elite, so then wont give me any more xp.
but if i want a new character, i would have to do all quest mission skills and exploration agin, that would take me another year.

egoistic point of view.

you had to think about survivor title before seeing your 12 maxed titles...

getting legendary survivor title has also become too easy now...

what about all people who tried and re-tried so many times to get it?

Create a new char and start again

Emik · May 24, 2007, 04:25 PM // 16:25

I agree...

It's too easy for farmers to get.
Make a monk and start solo'ing in HM.
I've made my monk go from 350k to 1.250k XP in a week time.

guppychk · May 24, 2007, 06:28 PM // 18:28

i also have a legendary survivor besides my mainchar. and iam going to create another one, but i also want it on my mainchar. i dont say that there should be any changes on the title counter itself, i only want to have one chance (this special weekend) to do this title. i dont want to delete my 2000 Hours of GW only because of this title... 2 of my friends did it... the first one copletely left the game after he saw that he had to do all cartographers again and treasure and all these things. the other one always died at around 800K XP. He gave it up now and has a little shiver in his voice if we talk about this theme...

bhavv · May 24, 2007, 09:43 PM // 21:43

Although I find it unfair that players created before this title was introduced cannot achieve it like my primary, It would also be way too easy to obtain if you had access to every area of the game before pursuing.

Soloing vampires in Urgoz usually nets you aroung 7500xp a run, so resetting the title and being able to go there with an XP boosting scrolls as many times as you like would be pretty stupid.

One thing that I think would work here is making the title account based. So you get survivor on one character the same way everyone else did, and it can count on your primary that was created on day one of GW.

Mr. G · May 24, 2007, 10:46 PM // 22:46

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Originally Posted by Magma red

There is no title (yet at least) for getting all titles maxed, and it is impossible to do so anyway

-.-

i love that comment

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i say they should be able to redo the title, i love my rit - but im not re-rolling him beacuse i didnt know there was such a title when i first started playing

Diddy bow · May 24, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49

can i get an easy rank 5 too that really suit me and screw those who accually worked for the title :/

MithranArkanere · May 24, 2007, 11:46 PM // 23:46

Instead of stopping if you die, it could reset back to 0 if you die.

There were people that would have take much nore care and had 1 or two deaths before the title ever existed... it's unfair for them...

Finix · May 25, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43

I agree with Magma on this one. When you die, restart or forget about it. You aren't a survivor. When I made my assassin, I made it to go for legendary survivor. I had to restart 2 times, one due to lag, and another due to assholish friends (it was kinda funny though). Regardless, I wanted the title, so I restarted. If people want it, put in the work required and stop complaining about characters unable to take advantage of an easily maxed title for the KoaBD title.

Tha Axod · May 25, 2007, 07:35 AM // 07:35

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Originally Posted by Finix

I agree with Magma on this one. When you die, restart or forget about it. You aren't a survivor. When I made my assassin, I made it to go for legendary survivor. I had to restart 2 times, one due to lag, and another due to assholish friends (it was kinda funny though). Regardless, I wanted the title, so I restarted. If people want it, put in the work required and stop complaining about characters unable to take advantage of an easily maxed title for the KoaBD title.

im very much willing to do a lot of work for the title.
just as much as you did, but i dont want to do everything in the game again.
that would take me another year and a lot of gold. Its just easy if you could reroll your character, so it would become lvl 1 again and then just do the same thing as you normally would need to do for the survivor rank.
If you die, dont delete, just reroll again.

Sophitia Leafblade · May 25, 2007, 09:40 AM // 09:40

I think the title should be changed so u can start it at any point, u still have to gain the same amount of xp without dieing, if u die the counter gets reset and u can start again, this would make the title possible for older characters like all my Tryian ones. It would also allow people to try to work on it without having to restart the character if a bug or such like causes an accidental death.

Yang Whirlwind · May 25, 2007, 10:09 AM // 10:09

I was just complaining that the title is useless to me to some guildies yesterday!
All my titles are on my beloved Elementalist and im not starting him over to get Survivor! Since im not interested in doing everything again either there's 3 options as far as my ele's concerned:

1 Making Survivor an account title!
2 Making it possible to attain Survivor if you can earn a certain amount of XP without dying regardless of when you do it (you could make the amount higher for lvl 20's than for lvl 1's - i wouldn't mind)
3. Ignore this title and pretend i don't care about it (<-- what i've been doing so far)

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Getting Survivor and Defender in pre-searing is impossible unless a change was made I am not aware of.

True - but you could still (i think) have both titles on a character: lvl. 20 in Pre-Searing without dying, then leave Pre. and get max Survivor!